A discourse on the nature of CLAMP.

[tammaiya]

Requiescat 6 (6:03:45 PM): X is doomed to never, ever be finished.
Requiescat 6 (6:03:55 PM): I think they just couldn't figure out how to end it.
Kattaiya (6:04:00 PM): Probably
Kattaiya (6:04:04 PM): No, wait!
Kattaiya (6:04:07 PM): I have another theory.
Requiescat 6 (6:04:12 PM): ?
Kattaiya (6:04:45 PM): You know how I said that one of them had their dog die and their siblings disown them and the parents killed in a horrible accident and their lover of 5 years cheat on them and such?
Requiescat 6 (6:04:58 PM): Yeah
Kattaiya (6:05:28 PM): Well, they're ready to move on and now they've got this series of complete tragedy that they don't want to finish because they planned for everyone to die gruesomely and it's depressing. *g*
Requiescat 6 (6:06:51 PM): Hee.
Requiescat 6 (6:06:59 PM): That's...disturbingly plausible, really.
Kattaiya (6:07:04 PM): *snigger*
Requiescat 6 (6:07:22 PM): "Hey, maybe we should finish X." "But it's so DEPRESSING." "Yeah, good point. Let's go draw more Tsubasa."
Kattaiya (6:10:05 PM): "I kind of feel bad about the crap we've put the X characters through..."
"It WAS your idea."
"I know, but I've decided it was a bad one."
"... we've still got to finish it."
"Why? I don't want to anymore. The ending is going to be horribly painful."
"We could...er... change it?"
"With all the foreshadowing we've done? *flat look* It'd be a complete copout. Besides, Seishirou is already dead. He was my favourite character."
"Okay, good point. Let's just discontinue it or something."
"Can we do that?"
"We're the mangaka, they can't MAKE us draw it."
"Oh yeah! Great. Now, back to CCS."
Requiescat 6 (6:12:17 PM): And then all the fans cry out in anguish
Kattaiya (6:12:47 PM): Yes. But it's probably good for them, cause they don't feel so bad about making up happy alternate timelines.
Requiescat 6 (6:14:05 PM): Point.
Requiescat 6 (6:14:46 PM): The best-case scenario is that CLAMP gets really drunk one day and decides to finish X by bringing everyone back from the dead and they all live happily ever after.
Kattaiya (6:15:22 PM): Hah, yeah. Someone should tell them that really, we'd be HAPPY if they gave it a copout ending. *g*
Requiescat 6 (6:16:16 PM): Hee, yes. Particularly one in which Seishirou comes back and he and Subaru elope.
Kattaiya (6:16:43 PM): Ooh, yes. Or even just snog. Have you realised that no one ever snogs in CLAMP? Like, ever?
Kattaiya (6:16:52 PM): it's so frustrating
Requiescat 6 (6:17:43 PM): I *know*. So annoying.
Kattaiya (6:18:28 PM): It's like, not quite the level of frustration we put Subaru through. But APPROACHING, man.
Requiescat 6 (6:19:24 PM): No, worse. Because now Sei's dead, so he's *never* getting any.
Kattaiya (6:19:34 PM): ... I meant for us.
Kattaiya (6:19:35 PM): *g*
Requiescat 6 (6:20:41 PM): *g* Ah. Right. In that case, yeah, definitely approaching.
Kattaiya (6:20:48 PM): Sitting there, glaring at the screen, thinking "OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHY DON'T YOU EVER KISS?!"
Kattaiya (6:21:34 PM): Ever! Anyone! Not To-ya and Yuki! Not Subaru and Sei, though they have all of TB and some very promising opportunities in X to do so! Waaaaah.
Requiescat 6 (6:22:02 PM): CLAMP is just evil
Kattaiya (6:22:21 PM): Or maybe they're afraid they can't draw kissing.
Kattaiya (6:22:36 PM): though, hah! like I'd believe that, CLAMP can draw anything
Requiescat 6 (6:23:11 PM): Haha
Requiescat 6 (6:23:33 PM): "You know, Subaru and Seishirou should probably kiss at some point." "I'm not drawing it." "Me neither." "Don't look at me." "I hate you all."
Kattaiya (6:25:44 PM): "... guys, what about Touya and Yukito?"
"We've been over this."
"Yes, but one day the fans will rise up and slay us if we don't have some non sub-text."
"But if they actually GET to say they love each other then they'll have to kiss."
*silence*
"... I'm so not drawing it."
"Me either."
"I don't even draw hugging, don't bother."
"Why do we have NO ONE who draws kissing?"
*group shrug*
Kattaiya (6:26:29 PM): You noticed they never actually straight out let anyone say I love you either?
Kattaiya (6:26:50 PM): They are MASTERS of Ore wa omae ga... *trails off, dies, is interrupted, is impossible to hear*
Requiescat 6 (6:27:28 PM): They're MEAN.
Kattaiya (6:27:37 PM): VERY.
*later*
Kattaiya (7:26:29 PM): Hang on, do the angels die too if they win? *blink*
Requiescat 6 (7:26:45 PM): ...I guess so.
Requiescat 6 (7:26:48 PM): Makes sense.
Kattaiya (7:26:52 PM): that kind of... seems to defeat the point of their being upset when their teammates die.
Requiescat 6 (7:26:57 PM): Never really thought about that before.
Requiescat 6 (7:26:59 PM): Yeah
Kattaiya (7:27:04 PM): Oo;
Requiescat 6 (7:31:36 PM): huh
Requiescat 6 (7:31:39 PM): that's...sort of weird.
Requiescat 6 (7:31:42 PM): But intriguing


In other news, I'm writing Karaoke!X fic for Cori. The crack, it's overflowing!


Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
I'm not coming up with a plausible reason for a karaoke fic, the universe would implode.
*about 10 minutes later*
Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
... I'm trying to come up with a plausible reason for a karaoke fic. KILL ME.
Fahye says:
Um
Fahye says:
You could be very silly and say that in the interests of less bloodshed they've decided to work out who wins by this method rather than Kamui and Fuuma killing each other
Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
... *shifty look*
Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
*flashback*
Me: Reason, reason, reason... oh for the love of god, they can decide the apocalypse by majority rules. Songs as a means of changing people's opinions. *huff*
Fahye says:
Oo;
Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
It's a karaoke fic, what'd you expect? Plausibility? *g*

Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
... I've just realised that the very thought of Seishirou doing karaoke threatens to give me brain damage.
Fahye says:
Uh, it happens. In TB.
Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
.............. Oo;
Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
*Oo;*
Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
this just doesn't have the same ring as AIM
Reality is just another way of saying "delusions" says:
where you can use bold and huge font


Also, on the OTP pictures front, was having trouble finding pictures for Houshin Engi until I had the brilliant idea of searching in kanji. Which worked BRILLIANTLY. Mwahahahahaha.

ETA: Hey, does anyone have any good pics of Riku and Sora together? Because I can't seem to find any.

Also, I can't find my school diary. Bugger.

Comments

[surial.livejournal.com]

Hello! Now that our bleedin' internet is working properly again, I can resume my usual activities. So, how goes it?

[tammaiya.livejournal.com]

I'm back at school. *unimpressed expression*

[surial.livejournal.com]

I got my braces off this morning.

[gsyh.livejournal.com]

Wow, it is subtextual. Thinking back to Angelic Layer, even teh adult canon couples there never kiss.

[tammaiya.livejournal.com]

I know! No one in CLAMP manga EVER KISSES GRAAGHRAGJSDKLFS. *dies of frustration*

[gsyh.livejournal.com]

It's the utmost tragedy. My other major fandom (BtVS & Angel) shags like crazy, unless they are both male *glare*, although while sex is plentiful, like X and TB, the cast of Angel is extremely emotionally repressed. If you know Wesley and Lilah you'll know what I mean, they are currently the only fictional couple I can think of that is more tragic then Sei x Sub, because Lilah is contract-bound to Hell, where as I actually think Sei-chan and Subaru could eventually sort things out in the afterlife.

[tammaiya.livejournal.com]

Good old Buffy.

CLAMP manga are repressed compared to ANYTHING.

What about Setsuka and Seishriou

[gsyh.livejournal.com]

I just remember something I heard about the Seishirou "flashback" with his mother, din't she kiss him? 0_0

Re: What about Setsuka and Seishriou

[tammaiya.livejournal.com]

Um... I can't remember. I don't think so, I think she just puts her hand to his cheek. But even if she does, it's not the full-on, you know, romantic kiss.

Re: What about Setsuka and Seishriou

[gsyh.livejournal.com]

But don't you see how distrubing this could be? If in the universe of Clamp, of all the people who are romantically involve, the only kiss in existence between Seishirou and his psycho mommy?

Even distrubing is that I'm not at all disgusted at this, in spite of my usual stance towards cross generation incest which is "hell no".

Re: What about Setsuka and Seishriou

[tammaiya.livejournal.com]

But I don't remember if there WAS a kiss. You'd have to look that up.

If there was I would see your point, though. Then again, hey! This is CLAMP. I expect no different. XD

The kiss scene...

[gsyh.livejournal.com]

X character file: Seishirou Sakurazuka. (http://oldcrows.net/~rabi/X/scripts/xcf-sei.txt)

SETSUKA
...... The smell of your blood, Seishirou..... I love it.

Setsuka traces over Seishirou's lips.

SETSUKA
Kiss me.

Seishirou silently kisses Setsuka.
Setsuka, mumbling.

SETSUKA
I love you.... Seishirou.....

Soon.....

You will kill me.


Scroll down near the bottom of the page....

This is where the joke in the "Shota Shorts Sei-chan is Not Happy
" comic at Just A Little Ecchi (http://www.seishirou.nu/ecchi/) comes in.

Re: The kiss scene...

[tammaiya.livejournal.com]

Okay, you win. Wow, CLAMP are fucked up. Not that I didn't, you know, know that. But it bore repeating. XD